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Image limit reached last thread. Didn't consider that!

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I can't very well leave the story unfinished!!

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The End.

I don't think this manga is something you can necessarily "enjoy" given it's bleakness, but I hope you all liked it.

Sorry I ended up taking two threads for it, I didn't account for the image limit.

Merry Christmas, Mister Samachan!

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>>26727
Oh wow this is a high effort christmas gift
Appreciate it, will be reading when I get home
With that said am I suddenly retarded? Isn't Christmas like a whole 20 days from now? Why is everyone saying merry christmas, it's a month away.

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>>26728
Christmas starts the fourth Friday of November and doesn't end until the fist hangover of the new year goes away.

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>>26727
Didn't know that the Kitaro author had such a past. And can you imagine? Suddenly getting a suicide order like that, after suffering from shit like malaria and hunger. Or surviving and getting guilt tripped and "forced" into suicide anyways. Or being forced into a war when you were just a teacher or a random rich guy, only to die a pointless death.

And well it is enjoyable in the sense that the story has something to reflect upon and it actually has a certain flow to it. It made me realize how some of the manga I read are just text walls explaining everything instead of you know, actually showing you stuff and letting the characters interact in a more organic way.

Good read and good work! Let it be known that the time you spent uploading wasn't wasted.


>>26728
Time flies, just blink and suddenly one week is gone by without noticing. Merry Christmas by the way

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>>26730
As far as I know he's best known in the west for this manga but I might be wrong. It's been several years since I've read it. Thanks for sharing, OP!

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I realized I forgot to post the Notes, so here they are.

>>26728
I'm glad to hear!

My apologies, I've been treating months as their respective Holidays recently since time's been flying by so quickly.
All of October was Halloween but Halloween was -especially- Halloween, for example.
Also I figured posting it a bit early would give people a chance to read it.

>>26729
Good response.

>>26730
Very glad to hear, and I definitely agree.
As said in the previous thread I think Pvt. Kayama's death in particular speaks volumes to the mentality at the time. The fact he's still alive and wounded but they're more focused on saving face for him than his actual life and all that.

One thing to note is the first time I read this I kept mistaking Corpsman Kamiya with Dr. Ishiyama, which made for a confusing read giving their conflicting personalities.

Thank you for the nice post!

>>26733
You're welcome!
He's also well known for "Showa: A History of Japan" I believe.
I own Volume 1926-1939 physically, but haven't read it yet.

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And with that, The End!

 No.26744

You should have linked the previous thread in the OP.

I haven't read it yet but I will soon. I hope.

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>>26744
Yeah, sorry. I was a bit tired near the end of the dump and I didn't think to do it.

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>>26730
>only to die a pointless death
Most deaths in these sorts of huge wars are pointless. There's a study somewhere that says, historically at least, the percentage of people fighting in a large-scale war solely for 'traditional' reasons (glory, honor, duty, sense of nationalistic pride) is roughly 20%. Anyone who dies outside of that 20% is usually a 'pointless' death.
Something like 60% of the UK's physicists of note and 50% of their notable chemists died in WWI, which contributed heavily to their decline as a center of the sciences (they were already on the way out and being replaced by Germans, but losing some of their most promising young candidates didn't help).

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>>26753
>historically at least, the percentage of people fighting in a large-scale war solely for 'traditional' reasons
Most people just got drafted, dude. The idea of an volunteer army is like 50 years old.
As for the scientists, a lot of them got drafted into chemical and artillery units for their skills.

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>>26761
The idea of the drafted army is also not as old as you might expect and a lot of cultures relied on volunteer armies
Also for WWI, Britain relied almost exclusively on volunteers so there's that. Same with the Commonwealth countries.

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>>26761
>The idea of an volunteer army is like 50 years old.
Not sure where you heard that from. It's at least 220 years old.
For example the first time a draft was ever imposed in the United States was during the Civil War. The 90 or so years prior to it were voluntary.

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>>26764
>>26768
I should have chosen my words more carefully. A military that is "voluntary" during peacetime and minor conflict which can conscript people when a big war breaks out isn't really voluntary. Even some of the early American states had mandatory militia enrollment and punished conscientious objectors. If I'm not misremembering, the UK actually has laws on the books protecting Quakers and things that go back 250 years but the Royal Navy relied on press gangs through the Napoleonic Wars, and the legality was still in question afterward. If there is any penalty to conscientious objection then it's not really voluntary in a meaningful sense, and the postnationalist philosophical context for that idea's entrenchment in laws is essentially a result of the World Wars.
You're both correct in practice though.

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>>26779
Oh you meant a conscientious objection
I mean I personally feel as though that's easily one of the stupidest things anyone's ever come up with, and it doesn't really enable to you to get out of the military scot-free, as I understand. You still register for a draft.

In any case I was just pointing out that most people aren't really invested in the war, even nationalistically, so most deaths tend to be pointless, though not in the way the series is portraying.

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>>26782
Depends on the country. Plenty of countries have fully voluntary services now, which also tends to lead to more investment in pay and benefits for enlistees. Many with conscription also have alternative national service options, though if the objection is to forced labor rather than out of pacifism that won't really help. I should have said "voluntary army" instead of "volunteer army," which is a political term with specific connotations. Technically the right to conscientious objection is actually in the UN UDHR but it's only implicit and generally ignored whenever expedient, as with everything else UN.

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>>26784
Well, in any case, I read it although it's hard for me to know what to make of it. Seems like it's the result of just a big ego trip for…someone, but I'm not sure who.



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